Disgrunted Gruntings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA

How to exercise your constitutional rights during encounters with police.

Marriage partners, not government, should define the terms and spiritual orientation of their union in accordance with our nation's guarantee of religious freedom.

Source: Gay Rights http://badnarik.org/plans_gayrights.php

Redistribute the Wealth - Socialism is Fun, Not
By Lance Winslow

The citizens of the United States of America are being tested. When Obama made a comment to Joe the Plumber that we should distribute the wealth; many Americans failed to see the significance of his statement. You see, "redistribute the wealth" is a buzz phrase of socialists. Many younger voters have no clue as to how damaging socialism is to our standard of living. Of course, you cannot blame them, how would they know?

The real issue is that when a candidate promises everything to everyone, and then tells you that the rich will pay for it, well this is quite alluring for the masses, and the candidate becomes a modern day Robin Hood. "He He He, Let's Redistribute the Wealth; Socialism is Fun!" Actually, socialism is a disaster and it is insane to think otherwise. The United States thru capitalism has become the world's largest super power and it works because capitalism works.

If we take and turn our nation into a socialist state, we will slide into a nation run by government and thus, not run very well. There will be fewer choices and mandatory participation, and your freedoms will be less, as everything will be high-regulated, every single thing you do. Your pay will be determined by the government too and your taxes will be unbearable as the government grows larger and larger.

If you complain, you will be denied services and silenced. It is everything that Americans are against. Right now the government will soon own your mortgage if you complain your house will be confiscated, and that folks, is where we are headed. Socialism will be the death of American strength and economic power.

While socialists tell us the economic crisis is due to capitalism, well that is not exactly so. You see, the banking/mortgage crisis occurred because of socialistic ideals pushed onto free-enterprise, when the government and courts forced banks to make loans for homes from people who not only could not afford to pay for them, but were not even credit worthy in the first place.

So, socialism is already ruining your life as an American, but if you are not educated or smart enough to see it, I guess that is why you are voting for Obama and all his false promises. Of course, this is how all great civilizations are brought down; by the mob. The mindless masses, in this case with their vote, which is better than by revolution, but once it happens only a revolution can bring it back. Be careful what you wish for; death is in the wind.

The death of freedom, liberty and choice, and the pursuit of happiness, unless you like happiness with nothing but Big Brother telling you how to think, act, live and what to eat and of course what you can say. Think on this, as you vote for your new favorite socialist.
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Samuel Adams

If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.

What if the U.S. government released an "educational video" to teach today's Americans how to be good citizens?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvsADU2OOWM

Words of Wisdom from the late Harry Browne

Harry Browne - Big Government

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GHEwhdYs5U

Former Libertarian presidential candidate Harry Browne explains the dynamics of big government http://www.libertypen.com

Harry Browne: The Great Libertarian Offer

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWXpObAVdyY

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOe-KKOI4gU

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUrPDITcHv4

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqmzSishzwI

Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixwhbmyCrr8

__________________

The Declaration of Independence states that all men are created equal, and in 1776, that's exactly what they meant. Women could not vote, women could not own property, and blacks were considered property. After 200 years of enlightenment, we have realized that gender and race are inappropriate distinctions for determining who has individual rights. Anytime Gov gives you permission they let you know that you have permission by giving you a permit or a license. If you have a marriage license, what permission do you have to do now that you did not have permission to do before, who gave you that permission, and who gave them the authority to give you that permission in the first place?

Source: Libertarian Party National Convention (2004)

HJ Res 5 - Repeal 22nd Amendment.

H. J. Res. 5:
111th Congress

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second Amendment.

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.

This is a joint resolutions (H.J.Res. or S.J.Res.) in the U.S. Congress. Joint resolutions serve two purposes. First, they are used exactly as bills to enact law, generally for limited matters. Used this way, they must be passed by both the House and Senate and must be signed by the President before becoming law. Joint resolutions are also used to propose amendments to the Constitution. Used this way, they must be passed by both the House and Senate and be ratified by three-quarters of the states, but do not require the signature of the President, to become a part of the Constitution.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hj111-5

HR 17 Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

H.R. 17:
111th Congress
House of Representatives ("H.R.").

Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-17

HR 833 - Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act

H.R. 833:
111th Congress
House of Representatives ("H.R.")

Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act

To abolish the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks, to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, and for other purposes.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-833

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlmXUiEgNO8

Encourage your representitive to support HR 1207 - the Federal Reserve Transparency Act. The Fed is a private institution and is therefore not subject to normal Governmental Freedom of Information requests, as Bloomberg recently found out.

HR 1207 will help to reveal where the Fed is funnelling trillions of dollars of taxpayer's money.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/cam...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJyS1WJNisM

In this video clip Democrat Congressman Jim Moran expresses his disdain for people who want to keep what they have earned.

"...because we've been guided by a Republican administration who believes in this simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it...."

Considering that over 70% of lottery winners end up broke, bankrupt, divorced, etc within a few years of getting their winnings, maybe the reason alot of people are broke isn't because Bill Gates wasn't forced to hand over 85% of his money to people who didn't earn it, but because alot of people are really bad at managing what they have in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGIfbAt8voU

Last September I played with the numbers, and switching to a flat 15% Federal sales tax would generate over $300 Billion more for the government. But of course, most people don't get it. They don't understand they won't have to take time to file, won't have it withheld, won't have to pay someone to fill out forms, to get it back.

Do US Citizens have Rights?
(MartialTalk 12-03-2008)

Found elsewhere, chew on it a bit.....

Quote:

A Natural Right is a liberty that is granted to us by our creator (God). It is inalienable part of our being (it cannot be taken or given away).

Our” rights” are evidenced by the actions we take in exercising these liberties.

To be considered a “right,” an action must be something we can do entirely by ourselves. If we need the help of others in any way, either actively or passively, that action cannot be considered a right.

An action cannot be considered a “right” if it harms another innocent person, damages their property or prohibits another person from freely exercising their liberties.

An inherent part of Natural Rights is the duty to respect the rights of others and not to infringe on the free exercise of those rights by other free people.

We can all use logic and reason to determine what these rights are, and to figure out how far our liberties extend.

Quote:

Blacks Law Dictionary. Words are defined quite differently sometimes in the legal sense. Take the word "person" for instance...the legal definition of "person" is:

person: In general usage, a human being (ie natural person), though by statue (the) term may include labor organizations, partnerships, associations, corporations, legal representatives, trustees, trustees in bankruptcy, or receivers (see 29 USC 152) (The) scope and delineation of (the) term is necessary for determining those to whom (the) Fourteenth Amendment of (the) Constitution affords protection since this Amendment expressly applies to "person". A corporation is a "person" within (the) meaning of (the) Fourteenth Amendment equal protection and due process provisions of the United States Constitution. (Metropolitan Life Ins. Co. v. Ward, Ala, 470 US 869

We can also look at corporation:

Corporation: An artificial PERSON or legal entity created by or under the authority of the laws of a state. An association of PERSON created by statute as a legal entity.

Now. Keep this definition in mind as you read the 14th Amendment:

14th Amendment, Section I:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. (CONGRESS redefined us as CITIZENS rather than WE THE PEOPLE..congress CREATED US CITIZENS)

Jefferson said in the Declaration of Independence :
Unalienable. Many believe it is inalienable..but it is unalienable. The Founding Fathers were all about property rights and contracts. The entire Constitution is concerned with property rights, to include your body, your person, which is your private property.

So we conclude, that this amendment refers to all "persons" , which "may include labor organizations, partnerships, associations"- and "corporations". These persons are "citizens of the United States and (citizens) of the State wherein they reside." This clause establishes dual citizenship, with "citizens of the United States" apparently taking precedence. Remember that the CREATOR is always held to be more powerful than the created. Becuse Congress has CREATED juristic citizens, they are "subject to the jurisdiction" of Congress.

Follow this timeline:

Key

AR: Date an Amendment was ratified
AP: Date of the passage of a Constitutional Amendment
NA: Notable American event
NW: Notable World event
PR: Presidential term begins
SH: Statehood (for original 13 colonies, date Constitution was ratified)
WR: An event in a U.S. war

1765/03/22 NA - Declaration of Rights is passed
1770/03/05 NA - Boston Massacre
1773/12/16 NA - Boston Tea Party
1774/03/31 NA - Boston Port Act is passed by Parliament
1774/05/20 NA - Administration of Justice and Massachusetts Government Acts are passed by Parliament
1774/06/02 NA - Quartering Act is passed by Parliament
1774/09/05 NA - First Continental Congress convenes
1774/10/07 NA - Quebec Act is passed by Parliament
1774/10/14 NA - Declaration of Rights and Grievances is passed
1774/10/20 NA - Articles of Association are signed
1775/04/18 WR - American Revolution begins
1775/05/10 NA - Second Continental Congress convenes
1775/07/21 NA - Ben Franklin presents a plan for confederation
1776/06/07 NA - Richard Henry Lee introduces independence resolution
1776/07/04 NA - Declaration of Independence adopted
1776/12/20 NA - Third Continental Congress convenes
1777/11/15 NA - Articles of Confederation proposed
1781/03/01 NA - Articles of Confederation ratified
1783/02/04 WR - English declare hostilities at an end
1783/04/11 WR - America declares hostilities at an end
1784/01/14 WR - Revolutionary War Ends (Treaty of Paris)
1787/05/25 NA - Constitutional Convention opens
1787/09/17 NA - Final draft of the Constitution sent to Congress
1787/12/07 SH - Delaware
1787/12/12 SH - Pennsylvania
1787/12/18 SH - New Jersey
1788/01/02 SH - Georgia
1788/01/09 SH - Connecticut
1788/02/06 SH - Massachusetts
1788/04/28 SH - Maryland
1788/05/23 SH - South Carolina
1788/06/21 SH - New Hampshire
1788/06/21 NA - Constitution Ratified
1788/06/25 SH - Virginia
1788/07/26 SH - New York
1789/03/04 NA - The Constitution goes into effect
1789/04/30 PR - George Washington
1789/07/14 NW - French Revolution
1789/09/25 AP - Amendments 1-10, 27, one unratified amendment
1789/11/21 SH - North Carolina
1790/05/29 SH - Rhode Island
1791/03/04 SH - Vermont
1791/12/15 AR - Amendments 1-10
.....
1866/06/13 AP - Amendment 14
.....
1868/07/09 AR - Amendment 14

"We The People" declared independence from England, fought a war and entered into a confederation consisting of the 13 former colonies. A convention was called to fix the AoC, and instead they scrapped it and created the Constitution. "We" then created Congress, who passed the 14th Amendment.

Quote:

WE THE PEOPLE created Congress.
CONGRESS created US Citizens.

WE THE PEOPLE have a right to keep and bear arms.
US CITIZENS must obtain a concealed carry permit.

WE THE PEOPLE have a right to travel.
US CITIZENS must obtain a drivers license.

WE THE PEOPLE have a right to live with whomever we wish.
US CITIZENS are expected to get a marriage license.

WE THE PEOPLE have RIGHTS.
US CITIZENS are granted PRIVILEGES.

In other words. US CITIZENS have no rights.

When you're done chewing, let me know how it tasted. LOL!

The war that Lincoln began was over many things. Slavery was but 1 part, and we've debated that a lot. Ironically much back in 04/05 when I first posted my articles on secession.

This time around however, slavery is not a factor.

Interestingly enough though, many of the same reasons that launched both the American Revolution and the War of Southern Independence are with us again.

We've buried the lessons of history, we've rewritten tyrants and butchers like Lincoln, Grant, Sherman and Sheridan into heroes, we've allowed the Heirs of Hamilton their dream of a large and powerful Central government, to the detriment of We The People. We proclaim Washington, Madison and Jefferson "outdated" and "not applicable" as out non-representatives in Washington sell out our grandchildren's grandchildren to save their incompetent financial backers from ruin.

More than half the country is starting to wake up, people are taking to the streets, and things are in motion. Their outcome, uncertain. Is a sleeping giant again awakening, to reclaim their country and return us to a path we should never have left, or is this just another false alarm, and will snooze be hit again, as we are further disarmed, subjugated, and made dependent on the hind tit of a decomposing dead carcass painted red, white and blue?

List of states with sovereignty motions in play a of now:
http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/...y-resolutions/

Wisconsin
Illinois
West Virginia
North Carolina
North Dakota (passed house 52-40 on 04-07-09) (passed senate 25-20 on 04-20-09 - returned to house, amended)
Ohio
Nevada (Committee 04-11-09: “No Further Action Allowed”)
Oregon
Alabama (2nd Resolution, HJR403, introduced 03-24-09)
Mississippi (senate resolution introduced 03-10-09)
Pennsylvania (senate resolution introduced 03-19-09)
Idaho (Passed House 51-17, on 03-23-09, Passed Senate on 04-07-09)
New Mexico (tabled in committee)
South Dakota (passed house on 03-03-09 by a vote of 51-18, passed senate on 03-05-09 by a vote of 20-14)
Virginia
Kentucky (2nd resolution introduced on 02/24)
Alaska (2nd resolution introduced 03-19-09) (HJR27 Passed 37-0 on 04-06-09) (Senate Passed HJR27, 19-0, on 04-19-09 - Awaiting Transmittal to Governor)
Indiana (2nd Senate Resolution Introduced 03-19-09) (SR0042 Passed Committe 8-0 on 04-01-09) (SR0042 Passed Senate 44-3 on 04-09-09)
Tennessee
Arkansas (failed in committee on 03-04-09 passed committee 04-01-09
Minnesota
South Carolina (passed house on 02-26-09, senate - referred to subcommittee)
Georgia (Senate Version - Passed 43-1 on 04/01/09)
Kansas
Texas (senate resolution introduced 03-02-09 - senate’s 2nd resolution introduced on 03-04-09)
New Hampshire (resolution killed in house on 03-04-09: 216-150)
Missouri
Iowa
Montana (Failed 51-49 on 02-24-09) (Resolution reintroduced as HR3) (HR3 Passed House Committee on 04-21-09)
Michigan (senate version introduced 03-03-09)
Arizona
Washington
Oklahoma (passed house on 02/18/09, senate version passed 25-17 on 03-04-09) (Joint version passed Senate, 29-18 on 04-15-09 - awaiting signuture of governor) Failed House vote, 54-34)

Sounds like "We The People" are waking up an deciding that an out of control and out of touch "Elite" needs a reminder on the Constitution and the real limits to their powers. About fucking time America.
About. Fucking. Time.

Can Texas Really Secede?

That's the question floating around now that Texas Gov.

Neither the US Constitution nor the Texas Constitution specifically mention any way to separate.

The Texas Constitution says this about Texas and the US.

ARTICLE 1. BILL OF RIGHTS Sec. 1. FREEDOM AND SOVEREIGNTY OF STATE. Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States, and the maintenance of our free institutions and the perpetuity of the Union depend upon the preservation of the right of local self-government, unimpaired to all the States.

This would seem to indicate that Texas consideres itself a partner with the United States, not a subservient section of it.

Now, we've established in the past (see below) that secession is legal despite the outcome of Mr. Lincoln's Illegal War and the forced at gunpoint readmission of the states that supposedly never left (How do you reenter end you never left?).

So, my take on this matter is, if Texas decides to secede, it will. A motion will possibly go to the state government, be passed onto the people to decide, and the "Will of the People" followed. Of course, there are economic, political and social matters to consider. This isn't something to do lightly, nor quickly. Care must be used, and if a division occurs, it should be peaceful, to maintain good relations between the 2. Both sides must be aware that we have enemies who will use such an event to their advantage, and our disadvantage. In the eyes of many, even if we divide, we are all the same to them.

Personally, I'd prefer to see a motion to consider the option put forth on this years ballot, so that the public's opinion could be weighed. A large number calling for consideration could carry as much weight if not more that actually doing it, and accomplish much of the same goals, while not rushing into something hastily.

Here's some related links.
The idea of Secession.
Chuck Norris Talks Secession (not recession)
Revisiting the Past : Part 1 - An examination of the concept of Secession
Revisiting the Past : Part 2 - The Road to War : Causes
Revisiting the Past : Part 3 - An re-examination of the concept of Secession
Revisiting the Past : Pt 4 - The Institution of Slavery, cause for war. - Bob Hubbard

Not sure when this video was made, but Robin makes some good points.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_L1vLv84vs

I have the right to do whatever I wish with my property. If I own a pile of wood, I can set fire to it even if it is currently nailed together in the shape of a barn. Cigarettes may not be healthy for me in the long run, but I have the freedom to smoke them anyway. Drinking alcohol may or may not have negative side effects, but even if it does, the government has no authority to prohibit you from consuming it, even if it is "in your own best interest." Since when do we let the government decide what is or isn't good for us? What the hell does Congress know about nutrition, anyway? (For that matter, what does Congress know about the Constitution?) If the government can use force whenever something is "in our best interest" then government should force everyone to wake up at 6am every morning for calisthenics in the front yard. Fast food establishments should be torn down and replaced with bars that serve carrot juice and alfalfa sprouts, since - "it's in your best interest." This paternalistic attitude that "the government knows best" and that you are merely a helpless child is insulting and reprehensible. Hitler used the same attitude to persuade the Germans to subjugate themselves to the "Fatherland."

Source: Good to be King (2004)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puMz1Q3E000

Too funny. :)

Should the 17th Amendment be repealed?
(originally posted on MartialTalk)

According to the original design of the founding fathers; U.S. senators were not directly elected by the voting public, but by the state legislatures. This changed in 1914 with the passing of the 17th Amendment, which put the election of Senators into the hands of the general public. With this, the balance between the people, the states and the federal government was broken.

While on the surface this seems smart, has it really worked out all that well?

United States Constitution, Article I, Section 3

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the legislature thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote.

Amendment XVII

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the state legislatures.

Read this interesting article by Thomas J. DiLorenzo and lets open the discussion.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo93.html

Other notes:
http://www.articlev.com/repeal17.htm
http://repealthe17thamendment.blogspot.com/
http://www.liberty-ca.org/repeal17/s...a2003oneil.htm

You have Rights; the Government has Privileges - Michael Badnarik 1/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc4PbRQtwz0

You have Rights; the Government has Privileges - Michael Badnarik 2/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bDlVoElbd8

You have Rights; the Government has Privileges - Michael Badnarik 3/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZB_Vwmto0

I am a very peaceful man. I love people and am known for my gregarious personality. However, if you try to confiscate my guns, I will feel compelled to give them to you, one bullet at a time.

Source: Good to be King (2004)

2nd Amendment - Michael Badnarik Bill of Rights Class
Michael Badnarik teaching the Bill of Rights at the Libertarian Party of Illinois 2007 Convention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57lo7n4thFw

Awesome video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUJoB5Z6u0w

The question is: How bad do things have to get before you will do something about it? Where is your line in the sand? If you don't enforce the constitutional limitations on your government very soon, you are likely to find out what World War III will be like. I'm quite sure that I will never experience that war - because dissidents are always the first to be eliminated.

Source: Good to be King (2004)

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